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Set Visit: A Nightmare Reborn on Elm Street
Source: Ryan Rotten, Managing Editor
February 22, 2010
Concern envelopes a mother's face as she embraces her five-year-old daughter. The girl is calm. Confused, perhaps. Something is wrong. And it's apparent why when her mother lifts the back of her shirt and reveals any parent's greatest fear. Her daughter has been abused. The marks on her back indicate she's been raked by a set of claws. Mom runs her fingers delicately over the spot before a tattooed, blue jeans and tank top-wearing Sam Bayer calls out "Cut!" from his director's chair parting the unsettling silence that creeps over the set like a black miasma.The scene Bayer is trying to put to film is uncomfortable. A child in peril is no laughing matter and the tone of this set tonight is undeniably an intense one. Compounding matters, Bayer and Platinum Dunes' Andrew Form and Brad Fuller are trying to get "the reveal" just right while keeping the young girl focused. The producing pair are uncharacteristically grave. There's nothing lofty about their demeanor, especially in the wake of a successful weekend on Friday the 13th. Frustration reads on their faces. This shot needs to get done so they can move to the next set-up. Both leave their spot at video village to assist Bayer (consistent with the duo's hands-on approach in all of their productions).
The director calls for another take. Those claw marks are revealed again, hammering home the obvious during Shock's first 30 minutes on the Chicago set of A Nightmare on Elm Street: Freddy's back.
The Nightmare Reborn
A reboot of Wes Craven's 1984 film - which introduced the world to the heavily scarred dream-hopping killer Freddy Krueger - traveled a far less bumpy road than New Line Cinema's last Krueger outing, Freddy vs. Jason. The studio, briefly, toyed with a sequel to that long-awaited mano-a-mano showdown after its 2003 release, however, it reconsidered this maneuver when Platinum Dunes - Michael Bay's genre production outfit - later pursued the notion of giving the franchise an overhaul as it had done for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Friday the 13th.
"New Line thinks that this is like their Batman and Freddy Kruger is very important to them," Fuller explains, reconnecting with Shock as the film crew relocates to another section of the soundstage. Until now, principal photography has all been on location. "We were trying to get these rights before Friday the 13th and feet were dragging for a long time." The departure of New Line head Robert Shaye had much to do with this. Shaye opted to bid adieu to the house that Krueger built when New Line was absorbed into Warner Bros. "The brakes came out and there really wasn't anything to do on this for about six months. It really wasn't until Friday the 13th was done and in the can that they felt positive about it and they finally decided, 'Yeah, let's go with these guys.' There are probably 10 or 15 other horror producers, or competent producers, who would have died to make this movie. It was not a rights issue as much as 'Whose hands are we going to put this in?' And we had to prove to them that we were the best guys for the job."
Warner Bros. commissioned Wesley Strick (Cape Fear, Wolf) to pen a script that would take elements of Craven's original film and re-introduce them to a new audience. Strangely, when Platinum Dunes entered the picture, they were informed Craven was going to have nothing to do with the reboot. "I don't know if New Line went to him and they couldn't come to an agreement," Fuller says. "I don't know what happened there. I can certainly empathize with the fact that he created it and has nothing to do with it and that's not something that we feel good about. As producers and horror fans, Wes Craven is one of our heroes in the respect that he's made movies that we all love and love to make movies that are similar to those. Sometimes it works great in these situations. We had a great relationship with Sean Cunningham and that was great. With Wes we never had an opportunity to have that, I've never talked to him on the phone."
With Strick's script in hand, Fuller and Form turned to writer Eric Heisserer (The Thing prequel) to do a rewrite."This one's more like [Texas Chainsaw Massacre]," Form tells us when pressed for more details on whether the film is a straight-up remake or not. "It's not Friday the 13th where we picked through a whole bunch of movies. I think this one holds truer to the original Nightmare."
Fuller adds: "We went off of the same general story and made some changes to it. This is not going to be 'The Best of Nightmare on Elm Street.'"
Nightmare eschewed the sex, drugs and rock 'n roll mentality of Friday the 13th in lieu of a darker flavor that Fuller and Form liken to Chainsaw, but in a different way. Fuller references the scene this writer watched earlier tonight as an example and hints the film deals with "horrible" themes. Hardly how the first Krueger franchise ended. Fans watched him, in his later years, wise-crack his way through a battle with his daughter (Freddy's Dead), take the meta-film approach in New Nightmare and duke it out with Jason Voorhees. Dark and horrible themes were apparent in spurts. New Line agreed with Platinum Dunes that a tonal overhaul was needed.
"I don't think that anyone saw this characterized as a fun horror movie," Fuller asserts. "I would characterize Friday the 13th as a fun horror movie and when we make another one of those that's what we're going for that. With this, it's more about terrifying and unsettling and, if we're lucky, making people have horrible nightmares. I mean that's what the whole movie's about and that's what we're aiming to do."
Entering the Dreamscape
I open my eyes and I'm in a classroom. Fire safety is the lesson of the day and this place is proof of why you should never play with matches. The desks are torched, their surfaces flakey. Same goes for the walls which now takes on the color of charcoal. There's little to salvage from the collection of books lining the shelves. On the chalk board are playful drawings. The smell here is different. Not like other areas of the soundstage. It actually has the aroma of a scorched building.
This is just one of the many Nightmare sets that are going to be used for the dream sequences inhabited by Kruger. It's joined by a second classroom set right next door. Here it's a bit cleaner, but still awash in cinder.
"I think our dreams are much closer to the first film than anything else," says Fuller, taking us on a guided tour. "These sets…they're dark and they're dreary and there's not a sense of wonder or fun in any way shape or form. That's not the movie Sam wanted to tell, that's not what we wanted and that's not what New Line was looking for. So, these nightmares are truly nightmares and that's one of the things that Sam is so great about. We all have nightmares but it's a difficult thing to communicate what they feel like and I think that that's what Sam is really doing an amazing job with is when I'm watching it, I've had nightmares that feel this horrible, and he's bringing that to film, which is a really hard thing to do."
Bayer's relationship with Platinum Dunes has been a long one, even though they had never worked together. When Fuller and Form produced 2005's The Amityville Horror, Bayer - a respected music video director (Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit") and graduate of New York's School of Visual Arts - was going to make his feature debut with the remake. Andrew Douglas ultimately wound up directing, however, and Platinum Dunes attached Bayer to an abandoned remake of Near Dark.
Fuller says, "We try to hire very visual directors to make our films and make them look a certain way. And the dreams have always been very enticing to us because certainly with a visual director you put that in the heads of someone who can do something amazing visually, it heightens what that movie is. For us it was always about finding the right guy who can make those dreams just feel amazing and visually more than anything anyone had seen in the original film."
Finding the right guy nearly became more difficult than Platinum Dunes anticipated. Bayer passed twice on the chance to do Nightmare. But Platinum Dunes, especially Michael Bay, wasn't going to take no for an answer. The director behind Armageddon and the Transformer films reached out to Bayer himself when Fuller and Form reported back with the disappointing news of Bayer's refusal. "They had a conversation or some kind of exchange where I think Michael made a very intelligent reason for Sam to do this movie and get behind it," Fuller recounts. "Literally, as soon as that happened, Sam got on board and it comes back to the fact that his work is visually astonishing and it's varied. He has a handle on the technical aspects of making these dreams work and he cares a tremendous amount about performance.""A true artist," continues Form. "He's a painter, a photographer. He does it all. We have a map in this movie that is the 'Nightmare Map’ that's created, Sam was out there painting on it. It's pretty amazing stuff that he brings to this film."
A taste of the film's own divergent artistry is demonstrated in our shift from the classrooms to a cave setting. Fuller offers us no intro and the publicist remains mum on its relevancy to the plot. A skeletal frame of wood and metal greets us, but within it's all faux rock and candles clumped together on ridges and on the cave floor. A soiled teddy bear peers lifelessly from a nearby puddle, head turned upwards at the countless tendrils snaking out the ceiling. At the far end is a brick wall, a telling sign this isn't just "a cave" after all. Is this Krueger's new domain? Has he put the ol' boiler room on the real estate block? Or is this merely another landscape of one of his victim's nightmares?
One, Two, Freddy's Comin' for You…
Shock is in the final leg of our tour and this writer has reunited with the crew who are now huddled around a 20-foot underground tunnel that Cassidy is about to enter. The tunnel has been severed in half, like a worm bisected length-wise, so the camera can give a viewer the impression that it is tracking along its span as Cassidy crawls inside - tight quarters for this Melrose Place star who has already accrued a horror resume that includes When a Stranger Calls, Black Christmas (both remakes), Supernatural and Harper's Island. She co-stars in Nightmare with Rooney Mara, the new “Nancy Thompson,” Kyle Gallner and Thomas Dekker.
Something's familiar about what Cassidy is wearing (which isn't much). Below those blonde locks and face that graced Abercrombie & Fitch modeling photos early in her career, the actress is wearing a football tee, sleeves striped, with the number 10 on the chest - the same style of shirt worn by Johnny Depp in the original Nightmare. Of course, he didn't look nearly as good and wasn't in tight blue shorts with white flowers on them.
As of late, there has been Internet speculation as to how Nancy Thompson, and her friends, have changed between the original film and the update. Fuller assures us any rumors that Thompson is "goth," are just that: Rumors. Cassidy plays "Kris," the Tina character formerly essayed by Amanda Wyss. "Nancy has a similar arc [she had in the original]," Fuller assures us. "Kris has a lot more to do than Tina did."
Cassidy is asked to climb into the tunnel. Overhead crew members ready bags of Fuller's earth that will be sifted through the top of the tunnel and onto the actress as she crawls through. Bayer, seated about ten feet away, pulls his iPod headphones away from his ears, and calls for "action.” Cassidy begins her trek. From what this writer gathers, she's chasing after a little girl.
"Hey wait! Where are you going?" she calls out.
Off camera, Bayer feigns the cry of a little girl (which will, of course, be added in post-production) and Cassidy responds, quickening her pace. After a few takes, Bayer is satisfied.
It's time for Freddy Krueger to make his appearance.
The Man of Your Dreams
Haley appears on set in full Krueger make-up. He's outfitted with his hat and glove, ready to work.
The scene calls for Cassidy to be positioned at one end of the tunnel. As she continues to crawl through, Krueger makes his introduction in the opposite end and starts off after her like a spider approaching a fly. Fuller's earth drops all around Cassidy and the tunnel's stability is called into question. The two make a go of it until, in the first take, Haley loses his hat when it rubs along the ceiling of the tunnel. The cramped space, even for Haley, is a challenge. Take two. Haley gives it another effort and succeeds. The hat stays on and he preserves the high creep factor of the sequence.
Better yet, Krueger says nothing. No witty quip at all.
"He wasn't that way in the first couple [of films] and that's what we're sticking to," Fuller says proudly. "We've never been attracted to the jokey antagonist because it feels less scary and less real. Freddy looks very different. He looks like a real burn victim and that's what's important to us. And he's not witty. He's a f**ked up guy."No kidding. Andrew Clement's make-up is one of Krueger's various ever-changing guises throughout the franchise. Even though Wes Craven re-introduced his killer in a radically different form in New Nightmare, this reboot's take on the make-up has divided the franchise's most loyal fans already. Clement, who most recently worked on J.J. Abram's Star Trek, is working alongside Bart Mixon, his key guy on this production. Mixon is a Nightmare vet himself having worked on Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and Nightmare on Elm Street 4.
"We spent months in the design phase here," says Clement. "There were three of us doing all of these designs and we just went through all of these iterations. Sam sat with us and we went through books trying to figure out what it was going to be. I have a hard drive full of hundreds of iterations. As we're finalizing the sculpture, the design is still changing. I came in with a really open mind. I didn't know if someone was going to ask me to do a portrait, I didn't know if somebody was going to ask me to do the same old stuff. When we really started to seriously talk about it, one thing everybody really wanted to step away from was the whole stretchy skin all over the place, which just thrilled me. There's so much more opportunity for this, I'm just really happy."
At the start, Haley's make-up would take six hours to apply. Now, Clement says he's whittled down the process to just over three hours. Form adds there was a line they did not want to cross with the realistic approach to Krueger's visage.
"We had reference photos that we were going off of and you start with a bunch of pictures about how far you want to go," he explains. "Even with the skin color of a burn victim, how white the face looks or the pigmentation you have in it. There was definitely too far where I don't think you would even look at Freddy. You would turn away when he came on the screen. So you dial it back, do some tests."
"It's just so grizzly, it's hard to look at. And it still is," Fuller continues. "It's just little things we tried to do. We wanted to make it so you could see Jackie's eyes a little bit better. I think some of the earlier versions had the skin so burnt you could really see his eyes and see him emoting. We did some work with that."
From the sound of it, finding a new Krueger was an easier process than locking down what he'd look like. Because Robert Englund's return was never even discussed, the Platinum Dunes team was free to pick anyone new, and they had one man in mind.
"Even before Sam was involved, Jackie was always the guy we wanted to play Freddy," confesses Fuller. "I think that New Line knew it also. I think that they wanted him. As soon as we got the job we said this is the guy that we want. In our mind it's not like: Jackie was in first place and these two other guys [are] in second and third. It was Jackie or there's no movie in our mind. And New Line ultimately felt the same way."
Another tough decision that need to be made was the nature of Freddy Krueger's origins. Rumors stated that, in this incarnation, Krueger was wrongly convicted, making him sympathetic in some respects. Fuller addresses this speculation the best way he can: "We're starting over from the very beginning and I think that when parents are confronted with the notion that their child might or might not have been molested, that's an interesting part of the story for us. As you saw in the scene [earlier tonight], a kid can't really say yes or no and how is it happening. Our Freddy is definitely, and I don't think I'm letting the cat out of the bag, not a child killer. He probably has killed, but that's not our angle. Our angle is more of the molestation. And that makes it different and more horrifying I think."Just a Dream?
This writer's set visit is coming to an end. It's well past midnight and a crew member greets Shock with a pelican case and I'm immediately struck with a case of déjà vu. This is how they introduced Jason Voorhees' mask when I ventured to Texas for Friday the 13th. The case is opened and there it is: Krueger's glove. Not all that dissimilar from the original except for the metacarpal bone-like strips of metal that lay over the top of the hand.
I'm allowed to wear the glove. It’s a tough fit but I get a sense of its weight and the type of coordination one would need to wield this weapon. Pinch me because I must be dreaming, I think. Never in my life did this Krueger fan think he'd get to try on a screen-used glove!
Glove designs of all types and sizes are then presented. These were all of the discarded ideas: Gloves with short knives, long knives. Gloves that look as if they were designed by Tim Burton and carry various and wild sharp tools on each finger. Luckily, the production was wise to take the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it approach."
Undoubtedly, Platinum Dunes is going to great lengths to make sure they knock it out of the park with A Nightmare on Elm Street, a risky endeavor that once again puts the company in the horror hot seat. Will they succeed as Robert Shaye, and his then fledgling company New Line, had over 20 years ago and re-launch one of horror's most profitable franchises? That answer comes on April 30.
For more from Shock's set visit, check out our spotlight on Jackie Earle Haley right here!
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Posted by: Scarehuman on February 22, 2010 at 12:44:46
There's a Freddy film called A Nightmare Reborn. I thought this article was about that. Its a good movie, takes place between 5 and 6. You should look it up.
Posted by: djblack1313 on February 22, 2010 at 12:56:33
Ryan, great article/interviews! i've never been a huge fan of the Elm St movies (and even less a fan of Englund's FREDDY) and to read that they are NOT making him all jokey making quips was music to my ears. plus i ADORE Katie. so, yeah, i'll be there opening day!
Posted by: cleveland on February 22, 2010 at 13:33:29
this movie looks alright but i thimk that if freddy is in cg than its guunna look bad.
Posted by: Derek on February 22, 2010 at 15:41:21
Nice Ryan. I really like the angle of the crowd sensing he molests children and he's not fully outted as a child murderer. And the fact that they're focusing on his wife and child, I was sold before, but I'm beyond sold now.
Posted by: Nick on February 22, 2010 at 16:09:41
Im personally really excited for this movie. other then the original, the rest kind of sucked. There are so many people who are writing this movie off because Englund isnt in it, although he will always be the original freddy, i dont think he suits the tone of this film. The more freddy spoke, and the more he joked around, the less scary he got. It really seems like everyone involved in this have the right idea and I'm really rooting for them.
Posted by: pete on February 22, 2010 at 17:09:46
nice..
Posted by: omgdudewtf on February 22, 2010 at 19:59:06
O.O
i so cant wait for this.
"HEY APRIL 30th!!!! WHY THE **** AREN'T U HERE YET?!!!!"
>:O
great report ryan :D
i am so jealous
Posted by: Gary on February 23, 2010 at 06:54:07
Okay, the next time you run across someone on the internet that's talking **** about this movie being remade (and you know you've come across someone like this), send them to this article. I was already sold on and excited about this film, but now I'm just flat-out giddy. You're lying through your teeth if you say that you're not interested in seeing Freddy from a new point of view with a new actor's interpretation.
Posted by: grimknightx on February 23, 2010 at 15:06:13
so disappointed, these directors,guys,whoever is making this movie got it all wrong already, to prove my case, go back and watch all the nightmares on elm street movies, they said and I quote, "Better yet, Krueger says nothing. No witty quip at all.
"He wasn't that way in the first couple [of films] and that's what we're sticking to," Fuller says proudly. "We've never been attracted to the jokey antagonist because it feels less scary and less real. Freddy looks very different. He looks like a real burn victim and that's what's important to us. And he's not witty. He's a f**ked up guy."
First off, he was, go watch A nightmare part 1, than get back to me. and second, he did kill kids! It's what Freddy was famous for, how are the directors gonna say, he didn't kill kids and that he was wrongly convicted of only molesting them, if I correctly checked, it's against the law to molest kids, what in the world was the directors thinking, they must be high when they came up with the script! Go back and watch the very first Freddy film, than come back and tell me if he was quiet like the directors say Freddy was, I won't be there, I'll just watch it on a free site and laugh at how much they messed this movie up!
Posted by: grimknightx on February 23, 2010 at 21:00:40
hey Gary, I am not lying through my teeth saying that this is going to be a good movie, I know it isn't; here's the fact, lets see if you can prove me wrong or if I am going to prove you wrong, go watch the Freddy movies, tell me if he's witty or not, tell me if Kruger is quiet? Don't you think Wes Craven knew this storyline was horse crap, that was probably WHY he didn't want anything to do with it? Give me your definition of Freddy's new point of view? Don't you get it that, an actor, director will say crap to get in denial people like you to go see it! They're paid, they're supposed to say all that.
here's the directors (new) view on this crappy Freddy; and I quote again...
"Our Freddy is definitely, and I don't think I'm letting the cat out of the bag, not a child killer. He probably has killed, but that's not our angle. Our angle is more of the molestation. And that makes it different and more horrifying I think."
(I am pretty sure they already shot themselves in the foot) (the last time I check, molesting is against the law!) pretty dumb huh, as you can see, there's a difference between a real fan, and someone like you!
Posted by: HipB on February 23, 2010 at 21:17:46
I like many others are excited for this film, as a long time Freddy enthusiast, I am waiting in anticipation of this film! I just get a feeling in the pit of my stomach that it won't be what I want. I wasn't a bigtime Jason person, So I enjoyed the Friday 13th re-introduction, and hell even Jason in space, the same but a little bit less so for Michael Meyers.
Leatherface is the closest horror icon imo to Freddy, and we all know how they mangled that (moreso in the original sequels, again imo) For all intensive purposes, I won't care much what happens either way, when it comes to stuff like this, its better to have no expectations... sadly I think mine might just step in the way of the movie.
Posted by: Millza on February 24, 2010 at 07:16:46
Make No Mistake JEH is gonna Scare the Bejesus out of you! You only have to see watchmen to know this to be true Aaawwwwooooooooooo!
Posted by: rogue on February 26, 2010 at 14:26:55
To grimknightx...Calm down a bit before you post, because you jumped the gun a little. Yes, Freddy talked in the original films, but as film after film came out, Freddy was given more and more dialogue, and by Part 4 he's basically giving the equivalent of an action-hero quote every time he kills someone, often with some bad pun involved. People stopped being afraid of Krueger, and instead were cheering for him, in a way. I'm sure Freddy will speak, but he'll do so sparingly. In the original Elm Street, the closest Krueger got to making a quip was when Tina was facing him down the alleyway, and called out, "Please, God," and Krueger simply smiled at her and said, "This...is God". That's not some witty little comment, that's some dark ****. Hopefully, that's what they'll try to return to in the remake. Secondly, at no point do the producers state that Krueger was unjustly accused, they state that that's the rumor going around right now, spread by uninformed people who haven't even seen the movie. They do seem to point out the fact that this incarnation of Freddy doesn't kill kids, he molests them, and they don't justify that at all, they say that's horrific. We'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out.
Posted by: marcus on February 28, 2010 at 17:24:17
this movie looks like the freaking bomb man
Posted by: Freddy Fan! on February 28, 2010 at 19:38:19
I cant belive what Im reading here! This is a movie that should have never been messed with. Its easy to remake any character with a mask, and Freddy aint one of them! The way he looks the way he talks cant be re made! Freddy is an image that cant be changed. Still going to see the flick but not going into it with high hopes. Any Real Freddy fan will be with me on this one!
Posted by: rigor morris on March 16, 2010 at 00:36:07
a guy ''with a vision'' can go to hollywood and claim he/she can do it better. lo and behold ! hollywood knows that theres a new and gulliable generation who missed their chance to see the real version.
this mtv generation buy cds according to the ''artists'' video. ''he/she looks hot. i gotta get his/her cd !!!!!!'' if boyonce or any good looking guy WERENT good looking, no one would buy their cd or go to their concerts.
hollywood depends on this type of movie goer. looks/a rehashed idea over substance and originality. show the target idiots some naked flesh, the red stuff and have an mtv soundtrack blasting and its instant CHA CHING (for the opening weekend at least). the masses deserve what it gets. they keep buying into it then crying later then repeating the same muckup hoping things will be different.
thats called being retarded. theres been too many examples of utter failures than there have been complete successes (100 failures to 1 they got it right). why should this be any different ? because everyone associated to it says so ?!?!?!? because they cant possible mess up such an unmessupable movie like NOES ! hollywoods hoping our memory span is a fleeting one.
Posted by: rigor morris on March 16, 2010 at 00:42:34
@rogue,
NOES didnt have any sequels. just as evil dead didnt have sequels. those were scrubs trying to cash in on what the 1st one had. englund probably didnt get as much cash from the classic and also wanted to cash in. he didnt care how many were being made. i dont blame him, i blame hollywood. they know garbage when they see it.
they are not redoing the crappy ''sequels'', theyre redoing THE PART THATS NEEDS NO REDOING !!!!!!!! lump this remake with the failed ''sequels''. just make sure you give them your cash and time first.
Posted by: Spike on May 6, 2010 at 18:39:47
Gary
You are talking crap too. It is called having
an opinion or freedom of speech to dislike or
like this! So you should stop your trolling and pmsing and you should shut your mouth if you don't know anything! I hated it. Got an problem with that? **** you and **** off!
Posted by: chloe' knutson on May 7, 2010 at 18:57:18
it rock all though i love scary thing lol
Posted by: J. Fowler on June 5, 2010 at 12:22:19
It was "ok" atleast it was not as bad as The Land of the Dead was. I almost fell to sleep on TLOD. The new Freddy was slow and mostly looked like a zombie from RE!I have all the Freddy and I don't remember his to be slow. I agree that Freddy needed another new actor. Robert is getting old and will not live forever(his memory as Freddy will to me). This is whtat I would give it :C...
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