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Posted by: kurt russell on August 26, 2009 at 12:47:01

upon asked about the myer's character and how he changes, rob makes a point in saying that michael DOESN'T change throughout the film, but all the other characters do. then less then a minute later he says: "we wanted the mask to degenerate like michael does throughout the film". strange.

Posted by: SexyGeek on August 26, 2009 at 16:37:17

So there really is no piano theme in this one, huh? Interesting choice.

The question is, I wonder if I'll notice or if I'll be too sucked into the film to care. Knowing it's not there going in, I may take note.

Just a few days now... can't wait.

Posted by: SexyGeek on August 26, 2009 at 16:40:40

@ kurt russell - I took those remarks to mean that at the beginning of the film, Michael is the same but he changes throughout. Or possibly that while his motives may remain the same, he is so singularly focused (obsessed) with his goal that it leads to the deterioration of his soul.

That said, Rob's not one for eloquence in interviews. Anything meaningful he has to say is usually expressed through film and song.

Posted by: Dutch on August 26, 2009 at 16:47:23

I think Mr. Zombie's point may be that the character has been in this place his whole life regarding a complete absence of sanity that has been degenerating his entire life. We can't understand the place this guy has spent his whole life because we have no frame of reference for it. The others, however, have faced radical changes in their lives due to having collided with this madman. In other words, Myers is in the place he has always been in, but the others have been dragged out of their old lives through loss of family, pain & shock, and so forth. See ya there on Fri.

Posted by: kurt russell on August 26, 2009 at 17:49:57

@ sexygeek & dutch.

i get what you're saying. i guess i was merely commenting on how it seemed like he was undermining his own words within minutes of each other. i totally get what he meant though.

however, with the comment made by dutch: "We can't understand the place this guy has spent his whole life because we have no frame of reference for it." i am under the impression that we do have a frame of reference for it and it was explained/showed to us by zombie himself for the first hour of his first halloween film. now i would agree with the comment had it been made about carpenter's film, because carpenter set it up where no one (audience or character) has any clue why myers did the things he did. you have a brief scene of unexplained violence from a 6 year old, then the film flash forwards to 15 years later. there was no motive for him. zob's version though you basically get an hour long backstory. young myers killed everyone who did him wrong. i think zob wants michael to be this mysterious force that can't be explained but unfortunately he will never obtain that because of his choosing to focus on michael's backstory so much in the first. not that there's anything wrong with that, but to me that just kills (no pun intended) that whole michael myers mystery and makes him just another masked murderer. so in the end it doesn't really matter how the michael myers character changes in part 2. he is just a vehicle to move the other characters. which i think is great!

Posted by: Nunya on August 26, 2009 at 18:19:50

In the other movies they seemed to try to explain his actions though. And then in subsequent films they did the same always going in different directions to the point it became befuddled. The guy that broke Meyers out of jail...never explained - though you'd think there was a link and he had to do with the why. I remember something in another film about some kind of cult - never explained further. Hell, in part two they had Samhain written on the wall in blood and that was never delved into. They did try to explain but stopped mid drift every time.

Posted by: kurt russell on August 26, 2009 at 21:15:18

since carpenter, the creator/writer/director of halloween and michael myers only crafted one film, i think its safe to say that those "sequels" were completely unnecessary don't really count.

Posted by: Spanish39 on August 26, 2009 at 23:18:01

I love this mutherfacker. He gets it. The other films were crap and built on some lame mythology that made no sense to the Carpenters original. I have said this forver. Thank god Zombie thinks the same way. Knowing he didn't even want to make this film to begin with and yet he has gone in head first and done it this way, it makes me excited to see it finally. I LOVE how he has Michael on this same path of a one track mind. In "reality" it would be just this way. Michael could care less about anything other than killing. I think Zombie will have been successful yet again after this comes out. Seems brilliant, some one else would have screwed it all up horribly.

Thank god he didn't follow the other films and basically made this chapter 2 of a one series volume. A complete continuation. Who needs the damn cult of the thorn anyway, what crap those films turned out to be. It was always about Michael Myers and his one track killing mind for Lorie. Carpenter wanted it that way and Zombie has kept it that way.

Kudos sir, kudos. F the haters. Let 'em watch Halloween II through H20. I WANT THIS!

Posted by: Miles Finch on August 27, 2009 at 00:53:40

34 hours to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Boogeyshoes on August 27, 2009 at 11:50:13

"They did try to explain but stopped mid drift every time."

No, they merely expected the audience to be intelligent enough to connect the dots without having every single little thing spelled out for them.

Posted by: MichaelMyers87 on August 27, 2009 at 15:26:41

Rob Zombie was somewhat restrained when making the 2007 one becuase he was remaking the 1978 one, with this one however the producers told him he can do whatever he wants so it should be much more "rob zombie" then the 2007 one. Having said that the 2007 I thought was better then the original since it was more freaky and had more backstory, and since the devils rejects was awesome and it was true rob zombie then I think it will be a good thing that hes doing his own thing with h2.

Posted by: MichaelMyers87 on August 27, 2009 at 15:30:19

Another thing, it seems like Michael wont be the "main character" like he was in the 2007 one. I think this one will be more about the other characters, mainly his sister which isnt bad at all since the 1st 8 halloweens (1978-2002 ones) the main character would be one of his family members and Michael was simply the bad guy they had to escape.

Posted by: SexyGeek on August 27, 2009 at 23:43:41

"No, they merely expected the audience to be intelligent enough to connect the dots without having every single little thing spelled out for them."

You did just use the word "intelligence" in the same breath as an implied reference to H6, right? Yeah. Just checking there. Because it's not often those two things really go together in any way, shape, or form.

Spanish39, preach on.

Posted by: 80Pork on August 31, 2009 at 07:34:31

Nunya wrote:
"The guy that broke Meyers out of jail...never explained - though you'd think there was a link and he had to do with the why."

Unless I have been wrong all these years, I assumed that was Dr. Wynn, since he was revealed as this "Man in Black" in part 6 and had the thorn tattoo as well.