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Posted by: The Real Blue Beetle on June 16, 2009 at 13:57:21

Well ok then...let me just say, as a fan, the F13 redux was pretty boring. Like watching a train go by when you don't have anywhere to be. Just too slick, man. Honestly, the T&A was the one part of the movie handled correctly. Which was the saving grace of the film, which should not be the case. And put the damn music back in, dammit. There's some constructive criticism for ya, chief.

Posted by: Cameron on June 16, 2009 at 14:01:10

i think they just broke that down well enough so some of these know it alls can actually shut up. Just because theyre the ones making the money doesnt mean they have to hate them no matter the reason.

Posted by: Mike_Weezey on June 16, 2009 at 14:21:24

Hey PD team...
Didnt see the F13 remake. What I saw of the trailer and promotions disappointed me. The killing scenes were way too lightened and polished. The color scheme looked like something off of an old rap video. The reason the original F13 was great and the rip offs were enjoyable up to a point was that the films were simplistic and the way the film was shot was also simple. There was day and night and not everything was exposed at once. Persoanlly, Old Jason should wear the white bag over is head in a possible PART II and look like a redneck klansman...that would scare the bejesus outta me!

Posted by: Jonathan Powell on June 16, 2009 at 14:36:52

I liked Friday the 13 (09) a good bit, but the only glaring weakness was the very paper thin characters. We want to care about our victims some! It allows us to connect, and care for the characters when we can actually see ourselves in that position.

So my humble suggestion is, in sequels please make the characters more real and likeable.

Posted by: Scarehuman on June 16, 2009 at 14:43:48

Well if Platinum Dunes is listening I sincerely hope they abandon what Latino Review suggested about the Nightmare remake, that Freddy is wrongfully accused and not really a child killer. If that is the case, he is now Groundskeeper Willie from the Simpons Treehouse of Horror; a wrongfully accused elementary school gardener who comes back for revenge. And if he is innocent, why oh why does he have a razor glove? Is it for pruning bushes?

As much as possible, keep the theme melody intact, and let Jackie say something clever. There is no point in having a fan picked actor to play a sardonically charismatic character if you're not letting him say anything.

Posted by: michaelmatz on June 16, 2009 at 14:45:13

Powell is correct on the characters. A good way of avoiding that is not worry about the little jump scares that stopped working 4 years ago, just focus on the characters. F13 had had a hard enough hit in the beginning to keep the audiences attention. Then work on character and build tension.
For future reference watch independent or foreign horror films to be influenced on how to make sufficient scary movies.

Posted by: Vinny on June 16, 2009 at 14:47:01

It's good to know that they do in fact listen to their target audience. The problem with this remake was the fact that it was quite boring, and didn't really add much to the Jason legacy. The kills were not very creative, and the bodycount wasn't high enough, IMO. I think they tried to cram too much into this movie, meaning Jason's backstory. Jason wasn't the killer in the 1st, and he didn't get his signature mask until Pt. 3. Granted, a shot for shot remake would have been tedious. The only thing I did like was that they made Jason more "human" in how he acted.

Posted by: Filmz on June 16, 2009 at 14:47:45

all I have to say about the new F13 is that it was a piece of crap such a disapointment to all the fans and about the characters they didnt seem believable and they didnt seem like they would be friends in real life also the music didnt have anything memorable about it the other fridays had good scores good scare beats and the acting horrible just an example whos up there they better not be steeling the carasing up there that was so bad it felt rushed cheap and made by lousy studios that dont have creative input also F***k you Marcus Nisple for ruining the Friday the 13 with your ****ty directing

Posted by: Jackson on June 16, 2009 at 14:48:27

Well, I personally enjoyed the F13 redo. I went into watching this film with zero expectations and was pleasantly surprised. I thought it mixed in good humor and dialogue with a faster, more "vicious" Jason.

Like he said above, haters are haters... they're always going to hate anything that's not the original (even though the original may be pretty outdated). But, they're always entitled to their opinions, just as I am to mine.

On a side note: though I'm always leery of "reboots, reimaginings, blah blah blah", I'll at least usually give them a chance... especially if it's something I really loved. Sometimes I'm severely disappointed, but sometimes not. Bring on ANOES... Jackie Earle Haley is awesome, and I can't wait to see him as Krueger.

Posted by: jason on June 16, 2009 at 14:58:20

to platinum dunes, ignore all the critism, and keep making these fun horror movies, i thought friday the 13th was just unbelievable, you captured the whole essence of the character Jason, just keep making more of them and i will keep watchin them. Infact I thought the hood was scarier than the hockey mask, the only thing I could say is put a bit more gore in the kills next time. Don't listen to anyone I am a true fan of friday movies and the genre any you guys rock keep makin movies you love.

Posted by: DarrenSuds on June 16, 2009 at 15:02:02

I can't speak for everyone, but I think these guys have been doing an awesome job on these remakes. Friday the 13th was always my favorite of all the franchises, and I loved the remake. It was really satisfying and I'm looking forward to sequels.

Posted by: craig on June 16, 2009 at 15:22:17

I think Jason was pretty much the only thing they got right with the new Friday. I thought he was great, but the film had so much stuff I didn't like (underground tunnels? Really? Near a lake? Maybe a crawlspace under the cabins I could buy, but not a whole mining/tunnel system. It was a bit much, plus I just don't buy Jason keeping a girl alive and chained up because she VERY vaguely resembled his mother. And the score was completely forgettable. And the ending didn't pack much of a whallop. The climaxes of Fridays 1-4 were a lot more energetic and engaging and believable. I can't buy for one second that they would haul Jason's carcass out of that barn and dump him off the dock and into the lake. That completely jumped the whole movie off the tracks for me!)
I think Derek Mears did a great job as Jason. The whole pre-credits sequence was what I wanted the rest of the movie to be. But I would have just done away with the Mrs. Voorhees pre-precredits sequence because frankly- it felt very weak for what should have been a very iconic sequence. Better luck with Part 2?
PS- one last constructive criticism: give us a better dvd release next Friday and don't skimp on the extras...

Posted by: Meredith on June 16, 2009 at 16:27:20

I thought the Mama Vorhees opening was some weak sauce, anyway.

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Posted by: rockbot on June 16, 2009 at 16:36:19

I am still pretty surprised that so many fans did not like this remake. I thought it had exactly what a Friday the 13th movie should have. Violence, Dope, Nudity. The formula worked in the 80's and it worked in the reboot. And Jason was fast and seemed pissed which is I think what he should've been. Frankly, even tho I am a lifelong Friday fan I liked the new additions like the tunnel system. Anyway, I think if its Platinum Dunes people make up their minds to hate before they even see a flick. While people will swear they love flicks like Laid To Rest (which was ****ing unwatchable) and The Children which was boring I just prayed it would end.

Posted by: shh on June 16, 2009 at 16:49:40

I loved it.

Posted by: Se7enty-Se7en on June 16, 2009 at 16:51:30

Hey Mike_Weezey,

If you didn't see the movie, then, honestly, shut the **** up. You don't get to criticize something you haven't even seen. You are one of the douchebag haters that the producers reference in the article. Blindly hating the film because of BS preconceived nonsense. If you didn't actually see the movie, then you have no right to comment on it. To do otherwise, makes you look like an idiot.

_End Rant.

Posted by: Serial Mom on June 16, 2009 at 17:02:28

The Friday redux was okay, but it was no Final Chapter, or Jason Lives. I get it, different Jason, different story, he’s reinvented, etc. I call bull**** on one thing though, they are doin’ it for the money. Michael Bay himself said he reworked Texas Chainsaw on name value alone. And on box office? Didn’t Friday break a record for largest opening weekend for a horror film? Granted it probably didn’t make what the wanted, you can bet you a** everyone and there mother will flock to Nightmare. They’ll market that s*** out of that. And yes, that could be a enjoyable film. Honestly though, does any really think it isn't about the money? Ha Ha

Oh and look at this, right out to there official blog.

“We are finishing up on the Unrated DVD this week. That DVD will rock! We have a different cut of movie, that not only has more violence and sex, but it has an additional storyline that is totally different from the movie you will see in theaters. Its not like we just cut a few things differently, the DVD version will feel like a different movie. For those of you who love the theatrical cut, that will also be on the DVD also.”

Unrated Cut? I don’t think so. You just cut a few things differently.

Posted by: Avigrus on June 16, 2009 at 17:17:36

I thought the remake was decent. I kept thinking Dean Winchester would pop up at any moment and kill Jason with rocksalt.

It was an enjoyable horror flick. It was fun to watch.

Posted by: Naomi Watts Baby Placenta on June 16, 2009 at 17:30:51

You know, it's funny at some of the ridiculously stupid **** people complain about in the new remake.

"all I have to say about the new F13 is that it was a piece of crap such a disapointment to all the fans and about the characters they didnt seem believable and they didnt seem like they would be friends in real life...the acting horrible just an example whos up there they better not be steeling the carasing up there that was so bad it felt rushed cheap and made by lousy studios that dont have creative input also F***k you Marcus Nisple for ruining the Friday the 13 with your ****ty directing"

My god, how naive can you be? You must not be a fan of the franchise, 'cause obviously you haven't seen any of the films. Nispel did not ruin the franchise. The franchise was LONG gone by the time A New Beginning came around. It's funny that people say that the remake is for the money, but very ****ty sequels are "for the fans." haha. I'm a fan of the franchise, but even I can realize that it has lost a lot of it's quality since part 5. I really enjoyed the remake. Beats the hell out of JGTH and Jason X any day of the week. Even JTM. Seriously people, open your eyes and realize what you say before you post it. Platinum Dunes at least made an effort, and an enjoyable effort at that.

Posted by: Serial Mom on June 16, 2009 at 17:51:07

Wither or not it was an enjoyable effort is a matter of opinion. I know old school Friday fans that loved it, I know some that loathed it. Let me tell it's a fan debate to get into :) So if you enjoyed it, great. I'm glad. I thought it was okay.

Posted by: Naomi Watts Baby Placenta on June 16, 2009 at 18:03:04

True. Whether it was enjoyable for someone is indeed a matter of opinion, and I wasn't trying to tell people to enjoy it.

The point I was trying to get across was that I find it hypocritical of fans to say they didn't like the movie because of stuff that the franchise is FULL of (i.e. bad acting, bad Jason, bad kills, etc).

Posted by: MagnaderAlpha on June 16, 2009 at 19:10:21

Naomi Watts Baby Placenta, but isn't that what you should address in a remake(er, reboot)? If the old ones have bad acting, why use that as a standard? Why not try to make these characters more likable, better acted and such? I never got why you'd remake a film and try to make it "at least" up to par with the originals in terms of bad acting and campy storyline. You can actually have it all(great story, likable characters, great acting, t&a, gore galore) if you have great writers. But it really depends on what you want to do. Do you wanna say, "I'm just going to make this movie like any other campy Ft13 movie!" or do you want to REALLY remake it, in the same vein as Carpenter's The Thing or Cronenberg's The Fly, a MAJOR step up from the original classic 50s b-sci-fi movies into serious sci-fi horror that is now considered some of the best and influential horror movies of all time. I think that step up should be a priority when remaking movies. It should, "Do everything right that the original got right, and address everything wrong and make it right.".

Posted by: Naomi Watts Baby Placenta on June 16, 2009 at 20:49:06

I think you missed my point, dude. I was saying that there are people out there who did not like the remake because it had some shoddy acting, some not-so-great kills, and there are those out there who complained that Jason ran. I was saying that I found those people hypocritical. The franchise has all of that. I mean, the acting in the remake is some of the best of the series.

I don't think this is the type of franchise to remake like Cronenberg's The Fly or Carpenter's The Thing. That would mean totally re-imagining the whole idea. All we really want is to see a badass Jason movie, not some drastic re-imagining. The movies were getting stale, and definitely needed a reboot (a more appropriate term than remake; and if you don't understand the difference between the two, you should go back to school). PD wanted to bring the franchise back to what made it work, which was pretty much parts 1-4.

There are zombie-Jason fans out there, but I found, with the exception of Jason Lives, those films were what killed the franchise. They were definitely the weakest entries. I mean good lord, they sent him to Hell, then right afterwards sent him to space. They needed to press reboot on the series.

Same goes for the ANOES series. Aside from the first 3, the rest killed the franchise and turned Freddy from menacing to a jokester (even though 3 probably propelled that angle). That also needed a reboot.

Posted by: Deva on June 17, 2009 at 00:25:53

So I have to add that I loved this movie. I saw Part V when I was about 12 and been hooked on the franchise ever since.
I really didn't have too many gripes with the movie per se. However, there were a few questionable scenes:
1. Did Jason kill the hick in the barn because he was stealing his weed? And was Jason a weed-farmer?
2. Where did the headless corpse come from that he tosses on the ground when clay and the girl are hiding under the canoes? I didn't see him behead anyone. Possibly the old woman for warning Clay?
3. How could Jason have possibly survived his encounter with the wood chipper? He got ran through the chest, blood pouring out of his mouth, and got the back of his skull diced? Please don't give me the, "He was healed after they tossed him in the lake."


Mears was a great Jason, but I will always love Kane Hodder. Mears added a degree of brutality to Jason that only Leatherface could come close to.
I was a little annoyed that we didn't get a decent look at Jason's face. I even went so far as to rip and convert the blueray so I could extract the frames and I still couldn't get a decent look. Shame.
The "extras" were a bit weak. The scenes were only cut differently. Rarely added to.
Notable exceptions were when Troy was killed on the tow truck, and the Asian with the screwdriver. That one was painful to watch.

Posted by: Mills on June 17, 2009 at 00:29:02

Here's a tip for Platinum Dunes....STOP MAKING REMAKES! That's all you seem to make. Even this movie "The Sacrifice" is still a remake of Rosemary's Baby. Like, seriously, where is your artistic integrity? You live to pump out remakes. Remakes that all have the exact same look and style too. I just feel in 10-15 years we're gonna look back and see how all our favorite franchises were kind of whored out for a decade by one studio. You hire bad writers, and mediocre music video directors to make these cheap products for these big opening weekends you get. Meanwhile they are panned by critics, and the box office drop so fast he following week because of bad word of mouth. You do realize you are essentially "killing" these franchises by doing pre-mature remakes, correct?